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06/30/05 01:38
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#96261 - SNR
Responding to: ???'s previous message
By the way does anybody knows some kind of rule of tumb for a minimun SNR (signal to noise ratio) that a receiver must find in order to work in some way. I know it probably has to do with BER (bit error rate) and good old shannon theorem of channel utilization

I'm not concerned about BER, i'm planning to send the On command many many many, many! times

I found that moderm modems in order to be cheap they can work with 3 or 6 dB of SNR

I made an estimated of 6 dB of SNR for 600 meters in my system dB = 20 log10 ( Vreceive / Vnoise) is it too little?

Too much things have to be considerated! i'm going to have a look of Proakis' signal communitations book

For those who wonder i'm going to send the information in ASK (cheaper :D than FSK but with more BER :( ) with a carrier of 60kHZ

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Power Line Channel            01/01/70 00:00      
   broadcast in noise            01/01/70 00:00      
      Broadcast Vs Addressing            01/01/70 00:00      
   erk            01/01/70 00:00      
      Just some things            01/01/70 00:00      
      Got it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Horses for Courses            01/01/70 00:00      
   just curious, why not a photocell at eac            01/01/70 00:00      
   Radio            01/01/70 00:00      
      Zigbee?            01/01/70 00:00      
         great minds think alike            01/01/70 00:00      
   you have my deepest sympathy            01/01/70 00:00      
      Baby steps            01/01/70 00:00      
   and..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Connection            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
            MSN            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nop            01/01/70 00:00      
               K k            01/01/70 00:00      
                  kilometer            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what would he mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Binary            01/01/70 00:00      
         Is no guess, is only know.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Mexico            01/01/70 00:00      
   X10 -like            01/01/70 00:00      
   Actualization            01/01/70 00:00      
      K k            01/01/70 00:00      
         kHz            01/01/70 00:00      
         Andy Neil alias Mr. Perfectionist !!            01/01/70 00:00      
      X10 like            01/01/70 00:00      
         Pulse position?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Existing systems            01/01/70 00:00      
               Pulse position            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
   AT89S8252 : lcd            01/01/70 00:00      
      Huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Off-Topic            01/01/70 00:00      
      impedance matching            01/01/70 00:00      
          I see dead computers            01/01/70 00:00      
            file transfer using power lines            01/01/70 00:00      
   X2 Rated            01/01/70 00:00      
   RF switching            01/01/70 00:00      
      Try it !            01/01/70 00:00      
         Ya, sure            01/01/70 00:00      
      $200?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not necessarily Xbee            01/01/70 00:00      
   another solution            01/01/70 00:00      
      well...            01/01/70 00:00      
         maybe...            01/01/70 00:00      
            mains born network            01/01/70 00:00      
               8000 pieces            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re:            01/01/70 00:00      
                     not really            01/01/70 00:00      
                        re:cost            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Cost?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Cost            01/01/70 00:00      
   SNR            01/01/70 00:00      
      BER            01/01/70 00:00      
         checksum to the hilt            01/01/70 00:00      
            CRC, not checksum            01/01/70 00:00      
               Duplex            01/01/70 00:00      
                  if he can afford an occasional miss            01/01/70 00:00      
                     checksum            01/01/70 00:00      
                        checksum and short            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Test set            01/01/70 00:00      
                              1143.12345 Hz            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 maybe once in a year            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Idea CRC            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 SNR ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Frequency            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Lower frequencies            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Noise Floor            01/01/70 00:00      
         10%            01/01/70 00:00      
         Data Rate            01/01/70 00:00      
         re:10% error rate            01/01/70 00:00      

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