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06/08/06 19:56
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#118028 - Matthew, I am curious about something
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I wonder why you'd solder ANYTHING in an environment like this one. This kind of project is PERFECT for wire-wrap. True, you didn't have the necessary parts, and, of course another day would have killed your desire to do to this, but if you'd waited a day or two and ordered the correct parts, starting, if you're point-to-point soldering, with a board that has pads to which to solder, and sockets for your active components, or with appropriate wire-wrap wire and sockets if you wire-wrap, you'd have had a lot more leeway in the debugging and repair process.

A part of building ANYTHING is planning. If you plan anything, you have to plan how to get from one end of the job to the other, and how to recover from a problem wherein the source of the fault isn't obvious is part of that planning. What did you plan to do if your MCU turned up "broken" one day?

There are several published 805x to IDE-channel interfaces on the www, and those are typically complete with code. You aren't building something "new." Would a day or two of delay waiting for the "parts that fit" have hurt anything? Why the hurry?

I'm also curious how you determined that the XRAM block isn't working with the XRAM. There's no external memory, right? Now, what, exactly, persuaded you that the XRAM wasn't working for you?

Now, I'm curious enough to plug this code into one of my circuits and try to determine whether it works there and, if not, why, or if so, why not in your application. I've got visiting grandkids right now, so it will be the weekend before I can give this a try, but I'll do that then.

The sad thing, of course, is that you've soldered wires to your MCU, hence, you'll have to unsolder each wire onto a socket if you're smart, or to another MCU if you're not, in order to determine whether there's a hardware problem, which I seriously doubt, and fix it.

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List of 67 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
DS89C420 internal SRAM Access question            01/01/70 00:00      
   Timed access            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Timed access            01/01/70 00:00      
         Lacking ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: Lacking            01/01/70 00:00      
   dunno            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: dunno            01/01/70 00:00      
         lots of features to track            01/01/70 00:00      
   Example Code            01/01/70 00:00      
      Dallas SRAM Access            01/01/70 00:00      
   Update / Further Puzzle            01/01/70 00:00      
      False Alarm            01/01/70 00:00      
         A bug, maybe?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Isn't that CPU EOL (or not for new des?)            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, it's been replaced but he has it.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not Quite EOL but thats next ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Could be a disappointment            01/01/70 00:00      
                  how are you going to know if the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Damned with faint praise!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Clearly it's not for production            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Is there a difference between IAP & ISP?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           what I understand is            01/01/70 00:00      
                              DS89C4x0 IAP/ISP explained            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Final Update            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Try this            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Re: Try this            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    It may be time for a different specimen            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Re: new specimen            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          huh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not enough benefit in replacing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I've been at this a LONG time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    what does it return            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       returns 0x00            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          probably, but why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I doubt you have to connect 'em            01/01/70 00:00      
                                              do not know what ISTR is            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                what it means            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                me either            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   before you "move on"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          oscillscope             01/01/70 00:00      
                                             it's not clear how a 'scope will help            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Well a 'scope would ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   exactly ... so why not have another look            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      code?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         What about SFR definitions?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            SFR Def            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            SFR was defined            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               bad idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  Yep, it leads to confusion!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       confusion            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          That was what I wondered, too.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             So ... What about it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Clear a few things up            01/01/70 00:00      
                        wrong way around            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Most the time..            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That's undoubtedly the case.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Matthew, I am curious about something            01/01/70 00:00      
      Answer as best I can            01/01/70 00:00      
         It's still not clear ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            hmmm try some more            01/01/70 00:00      
               I don't think I'd try that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Re:            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's not rude ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Now ... here's what I did ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               test.asm once more            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Some more questions            01/01/70 00:00      

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