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08/24/06 16:10
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#122911 - it goes to an OLD issue
Responding to: ???'s previous message
There's still that ugly and somewhat silly tendency to tell the poster that his approach is wrong, rather than answering his question. You've done it. I've done it. Erik's done it. It's a very tempting trap.

If the guy asks how to do something and is specific enough to identify what he's doing and how he's doing it, e.g I want to interface an LCD in 4-bit mode using an 8032, then telling him he should use a device with internal memory doesn't help.

It's clear that he CAN do this. Why keep the answer to his question a secret?

Above all, however, why tell him his approach is wrong, when it isn't?

the O/P indicates,

"The PIN configuration is ...


db4 equ p1.0
db5 equ p1.1
db6 equ p1.2
db7 equ p1.3

rs equ p1.5
rw equ p1.6
en equ p1.7

"
which clearly indicates it CAN be done with the 8032 configuration.

Grant Beattie said, "You can do away with that pin if you use timing instead of polling. "

I said that doing that saves a pin, but discards many of the functions inherent in the HD44780 and its clones.

The 0/P asked about initialization. Not one of the replies has yet dealt with his question. Everybody seems to want to say, "See how clever I am." None of them says, "Here's how you can do it." or, "Here's where you can find the answer to your question."

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TopicAuthorDate
4-bit LCD ... single PORT            01/01/70 00:00      
   there's a datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
      LCD datasheets ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         the Hitachi Datasheet for HD44780 is not like that            01/01/70 00:00      
         VFDs: Lucky b*stard            01/01/70 00:00      
   4-bit LCD            01/01/70 00:00      
      There are examples on 8052.COM if you search            01/01/70 00:00      
         And you don't need R/W*            01/01/70 00:00      
            but be aware! You discard several functions.            01/01/70 00:00      
               on saving pins            01/01/70 00:00      
                  wait a minute ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Richard, please            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Why should he change direction?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           no such impilcation            01/01/70 00:00      
                              well, the logic is simple ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 OK, as always            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Richard, quit bickering            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it goes to an OLD issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                        as I see it is that this is GREAT.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  On saving pins            01/01/70 00:00      
                  read the forum messages, don't glance            01/01/70 00:00      
   Here is my example            01/01/70 00:00      
      why do you persist in 'advertising' this CRAP            01/01/70 00:00      
         Attack, Attack, Attack.            01/01/70 00:00      
            get your facts straight            01/01/70 00:00      
               Did you understand real life ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  yes, I do            01/01/70 00:00      
   Answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      Jon, great answer            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, indeed, ... BUT ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            How do you know...            01/01/70 00:00      
               It's possible that things worked that way            01/01/70 00:00      
   Better late than never            01/01/70 00:00      
      \"It works\"            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, it does            01/01/70 00:00      
            does that mean they're all alike?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, if all guys would read the datasheets...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Hitachi JHD 162a            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Point missed            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That's not relevant!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Advice appriciated            01/01/70 00:00      
                           where are you going to find that?            01/01/70 00:00      
      well, you just posted your own 'comment'            01/01/70 00:00      
   Simple Guidance            01/01/70 00:00      
      One LCD, One Port            01/01/70 00:00      
      horsefeathers, male cow manure            01/01/70 00:00      
   GOD!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      try a shadow register            01/01/70 00:00      
   Full assembly Code ... LCD 4 bit            01/01/70 00:00      
      On first reading...            01/01/70 00:00      
      probs in 2 SUBROUTINES ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Many ways to skin a cat            01/01/70 00:00      

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