| ??? 06/18/07 11:38 Modified: 06/18/07 11:42 Read: times |
#140938 - tools etc. Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Matt,
thanks for the comments. Matt Luckman said:
For our '51 compiler, there is no problems fitting our OCG optimizations into poplar formats (omf,eomf). Do I understand it right, that for this sort of output, the optimisations will be kept "civilised" enough to be able to use these formats (hence the debugging tools depending on these formats)? In other words, will you have a "keep it *omf51 compatible" switch for the OCG compiler? Matt said:
1. does your company plan to roll out also a simulator or other debugging tool for '51, in line with the enhanced compiler? Yes. An Eclipse-based IDE we call HI-TIDE Oh. Impressive. However, based on the link you gave, this version seems to be PIC-centric. I understand that - what I have seen and heard, your company is most famous for your PIC compiler. Do you have (or do you plan to have) the same for '51s (I am interested here more on the debugging part than the rest (as many users here apparently use their favourite editor anyway))? A simulator, perhaps supporting also the non-vanilla derivatives? Or perhaps also supporting the derivatives having on-chip debugging facilities? Matt said:
2. do you cooperate with debugging tool makers and/or chipmakers in implementing the needed enhancements to their products (or at least to identify what level of optimisation the existing support within those tools will allow)? Yes. HI-TECH has been around for 23 years and I don't think we could have stayed around for that long if we didn't. Certainly so, but I hoped for a list and/or links... :-) I think most of the users here came in touch with your company only marginally, so it is an unique opportunity that we have somebody here we can ask in-depth questions - and I think nobody would object to a really brief overview of what's available. JW |
