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06/08/05 10:27
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 		 #94499 - a few questions
Responding to: ???'s previous message
1. what ROM/RAM/STACK overhead (needed for a resident debugger or at least the space it lives in) is available in your "old designs"?
2. DEBUG in DOS does not come with source. Why do you need specifically a C-source debugger? Couldn't PaulMon be the basis (it allows some extensions, so you or somebody else can possibly write the "line-by-line assembly")?
3. What do you exactly mean by "line-by-line assembly"?
4. What about Keil's Mon51 and its variants (check out e.g. SoftIce at SST and Philips)?
5. What would you expect to pay (roughly) for a debugger of your specification? (I'm not going to do it - I don't C at all - just being curious).

Jan Waclawek



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Full-function debugger?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Keil uVision?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Full-function resident debuger            01/01/70 00:00      
         Oh...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Proteus6 or ISIS 5.2 Professional            01/01/70 00:00      
      full-function resident debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
         Like a Dream!            01/01/70 00:00      
   paulmon?            01/01/70 00:00      
   many possibilities            01/01/70 00:00      
      resident monitor vs. simulator/ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
         pray tell which            01/01/70 00:00      
         Nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
   best rethink this ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      comments            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Slow?            01/01/70 00:00      
         there's the rub...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I think I know what you're asking for            01/01/70 00:00      
               so what if JTAG is dead slow            01/01/70 00:00      
                  exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                  full function debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
               Full-Function debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  answers and questions            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Full-Function debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Does size matter??            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Full-Function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  JTAG is the INTERFACE ..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Full-Function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
            You Call That Convenient???            01/01/70 00:00      
               A Men !!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  sadly not            01/01/70 00:00      
                     be specific            01/01/70 00:00      
                        specifics            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Specifics....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Full Function Resident Debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
   JTAG vs On-Chip Debug            01/01/70 00:00      
   Full-Function Resident Debug Monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
      fried baloney            01/01/70 00:00      
         full-function debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
            a few questions            01/01/70 00:00      
               Full-Function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Still don't see why it needs to be...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Full-Function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                        nope.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Full-function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                              NASA            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Full-function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    JTAG ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Sometimes not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       JTAG            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    OH!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Synchronization            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          what does that have to do with            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             synchronization            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                that is not "synchronization"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   synchronization            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      more            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         and more            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            re: and more (was "Synchronization:)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         re: more (was Synchronization)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            ask about sim, get answer about mon            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               simulator vs. debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  The end            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     thank goodness!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ancient?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  different targets            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Full-function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I know what that is            01/01/70 00:00      
      But Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Full-function debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
            limitatitions?            01/01/70 00:00      
   to Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
      full-function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
         Time Warp            01/01/70 00:00      
            Multiple target            01/01/70 00:00      
               Full-function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
            Full Function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
               This is a discussion forum            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Problem in resolution            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Off-Topic!            01/01/70 00:00      
               So you got a free bonus!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  beating a dead horse            01/01/70 00:00      
         seek and ye shall find            01/01/70 00:00      
   Dunfield Development Systems ??            01/01/70 00:00      
      Full-Function Debug Monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some barebone monitors            01/01/70 00:00      
      BASIC            01/01/70 00:00      
         BASIC ???            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not pretending it is            01/01/70 00:00      
            on BASIC            01/01/70 00:00      
               Acorn ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  asm in basic            01/01/70 00:00      
      Full function resident debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
         source            01/01/70 00:00      
            Full function resident debugger C-source            01/01/70 00:00      
            Giving away source            01/01/70 00:00      
               of course you would            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ha            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Poor DA A            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Here is my stock            01/01/70 00:00      
                           DA A            01/01/70 00:00      
      seasoned hands??            01/01/70 00:00      
         ROM-emulator + debug monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
         In ROM monitor.            01/01/70 00:00      
            emulators            01/01/70 00:00      
         Seasoned hands            01/01/70 00:00      
      BASIC - and - MONITOR-51            01/01/70 00:00      
   Timer 0 isr howto            01/01/70 00:00      
      to Jonzon Yeow            01/01/70 00:00      
   back to the original question            01/01/70 00:00      
      There's an echo in here...            01/01/70 00:00      
         sorry for not crediting you            01/01/70 00:00      
      XCHD instructions.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Original question            01/01/70 00:00      
   re;synchronization            01/01/70 00:00      

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