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10/25/07 14:34
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 		 #146195 - 'support' and 'Atmel', I am still laughing.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Actually I am feeling a wave as if 8051 part manufacturers are not taking 8051/mixed signal core seriously when we come to economy/availablity/pricing.
you clearly have not checked the NXP LPCs (cost) and the SILabs offerings (performance)

It forced me to post this topic as today we have to taken a decision to use ATmega128 for a mass production sensor due to its abundant availablity, support, low cost and economy.
availabilty as long as Atmel makes it so. 'support' and 'Atmel', I am still laughing. The LPC chips beat the defecation out of the Atmels as far as cost.

I feel sad why cant 8051 catch up with AVR and we dont have to use the auuuu AVRS.
If you compare a C8051f120 with an AVR you will see that the above is totally false.

You are forced to use either programming tools (Cygnal programmer)...
what is the big difference between the SILabs USB 'dongle' and the Atmel 'programming cable' ?

Erik

PS I have a couple of inherited projects using ATmegas

List of 59 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Will AVR sweep 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   Is this a worldly viewpoint?            01/01/70 00:00      
      apple and orange            01/01/70 00:00      
   Availability; Programmers?!            01/01/70 00:00      
      price            01/01/70 00:00      
      Availability; Programmers?!            01/01/70 00:00      
         misplaced in the tree - the laugh is on you            01/01/70 00:00      
            this post is misplaced in the tree            01/01/70 00:00      
               it would be nice if you responded to my points            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what that means            01/01/70 00:00      
                     still do not know            01/01/70 00:00      
                        still do not know            01/01/70 00:00      
                           still do not know            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It is not up to us            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 LPC900            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    very scaring            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       yes, you get headaches ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Changing Compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    works just fine (now)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    works just fine (now)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    works for me            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    whydoes this happen            01/01/70 00:00      
                           every barrel can have a rotten apple..            01/01/70 00:00      
            your replies are difficult to read            01/01/70 00:00      
      ATMEL ... that's why AVR will never sweep the 805x            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel's step Motherly treatment for 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   'support' and 'Atmel', I am still laughing.            01/01/70 00:00      
      perspective            01/01/70 00:00      
         Now you're talking            01/01/70 00:00      
            Except for tools            01/01/70 00:00      
               What scares most Windows users ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  GCC-based 8051 compiler?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No, but there is one for ARM            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ARM vs GCC Compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
                           With ARM, it's faster and not smaller that matters            01/01/70 00:00      
         does that really matter?            01/01/70 00:00      
            contradiction            01/01/70 00:00      
               not really            01/01/70 00:00      
                  conscience ny butt            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Statistically insignificant?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sure - however            01/01/70 00:00      
      I am still laughing            01/01/70 00:00      
         Please learn to use the Quote button properly            01/01/70 00:00      
         A Very Different Additude            01/01/70 00:00      
   8051 IP?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, in about 10E42 years.            01/01/70 00:00      
   catch up?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics            01/01/70 00:00      
         More statistics, if you like that sort of thing...            01/01/70 00:00      
   AVRs might not sweep 8051 but...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Free Tools - Captive Audience            01/01/70 00:00      
         agreed ! but..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can't compete with ARM!            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Link            01/01/70 00:00      
   It hasn't done so far!            01/01/70 00:00      
   ARM Eval Kit for 32 quid; inc Board and Keil!            01/01/70 00:00      
      and who, but a hobbyist should care            01/01/70 00:00      
      from the latest NXP newsletter            01/01/70 00:00      
   maybe a slightly different view            01/01/70 00:00      

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