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10/28/07 06:29
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 		 #146306 - Atmel's step Motherly treatment for 8051
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Richard Erlacher said:
Andy Neil said:
Ap Charles said:
when we come to ... availablity ...

OK, so the AVR is available from how many suppliers:
1. Atmel

Oh - that's it.

You are forced to use either programming tools (Cygnal (sic) programmer) or buy a costly MCUs...

I don't follow that at all - there are plenty of 8051's that are in-system programmable through just a UART connection.

What "Cygnal (sic) programmer" are you talking about?
Do you mean their JTAG adaptor - in which case a meaningful comparison would be to the AVR JTAG-ICE adaptor thingy
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/produ...ol_id=3353



Now, I'd consider that the ARM might do it. It comes down to a matter of price and performance.

RE




I have never tried ARM but would like to . I have seen great advertisements till date.

Again I would say Atmel is doing a step motherly treatment with 8051 core , see for yourself when these guys changed 89C51 to S series when even the new entrants were giving ISp , And now they feel to lethargic to add a small 10bit ADC to it?? , which is very evident that they want to promote AVR and ARM .

APC




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Will AVR sweep 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   Is this a worldly viewpoint?            01/01/70 00:00      
      apple and orange            01/01/70 00:00      
   Availability; Programmers?!            01/01/70 00:00      
      price            01/01/70 00:00      
      Availability; Programmers?!            01/01/70 00:00      
         misplaced in the tree - the laugh is on you            01/01/70 00:00      
            this post is misplaced in the tree            01/01/70 00:00      
               it would be nice if you responded to my points            01/01/70 00:00      
                  what that means            01/01/70 00:00      
                     still do not know            01/01/70 00:00      
                        still do not know            01/01/70 00:00      
                           still do not know            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It is not up to us            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 LPC900            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    very scaring            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       yes, you get headaches ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Changing Compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    works just fine (now)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    works just fine (now)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    works for me            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    whydoes this happen            01/01/70 00:00      
                           every barrel can have a rotten apple..            01/01/70 00:00      
            your replies are difficult to read            01/01/70 00:00      
      ATMEL ... that's why AVR will never sweep the 805x            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel's step Motherly treatment for 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   'support' and 'Atmel', I am still laughing.            01/01/70 00:00      
      perspective            01/01/70 00:00      
         Now you're talking            01/01/70 00:00      
            Except for tools            01/01/70 00:00      
               What scares most Windows users ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  GCC-based 8051 compiler?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No, but there is one for ARM            01/01/70 00:00      
                        ARM vs GCC Compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
                           With ARM, it's faster and not smaller that matters            01/01/70 00:00      
         does that really matter?            01/01/70 00:00      
            contradiction            01/01/70 00:00      
               not really            01/01/70 00:00      
                  conscience ny butt            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Statistically insignificant?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        sure - however            01/01/70 00:00      
      I am still laughing            01/01/70 00:00      
         Please learn to use the Quote button properly            01/01/70 00:00      
         A Very Different Additude            01/01/70 00:00      
   8051 IP?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, in about 10E42 years.            01/01/70 00:00      
   catch up?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics            01/01/70 00:00      
         More statistics, if you like that sort of thing...            01/01/70 00:00      
   AVRs might not sweep 8051 but...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Free Tools - Captive Audience            01/01/70 00:00      
         agreed ! but..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can't compete with ARM!            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Link            01/01/70 00:00      
   It hasn't done so far!            01/01/70 00:00      
   ARM Eval Kit for 32 quid; inc Board and Keil!            01/01/70 00:00      
      and who, but a hobbyist should care            01/01/70 00:00      
      from the latest NXP newsletter            01/01/70 00:00      
   maybe a slightly different view            01/01/70 00:00      

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