Email: Password: Remember Me | Create Account (Free)

Back to Subject List

Old thread has been locked -- no new posts accepted in this thread
???
03/06/08 17:26
Read: times


 
#151963 - True enough ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... and, in general, one could easily substitute a series of ".bat" files for an ide, given an editor with which one's comfortable, a suitable simulator, a linker, and, if desired, a compiler. Such a thing will probably never be available for Windows, as it takes too much effort to generate the support programs, but under DOS, which is what we old-timers used before 1990, nearly anything is straightforward by comparison.

I've never even found a decent simulator for the 805x, i.e. one that I can recommend for someone trying 805x out for the first time, as most of them seem to be code-space limited. The result has been that nearly everyone I've introduced to MCU's has gone with the PIC rather than with the 805x. The most important thing, I guess, is that they're available everywhere, while, no matter what, current 805x's are hard for the average hobbyist/learner to buy. I tried, once, getting them for students through the university book store, but it took so long to set up the supply chain, that the term was over before it could happen. The next version of the course was taught using the small PIC's, which, at that time, were available at Radio Shack.com.

BTW, the last time I attempted to buy Philips/NXP parts through distribution, I encountered an 18-week delay.

RE






List of 47 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Opinion: 8052.com hosting other company forums?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Suck it and see?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Appearance of Propriety            01/01/70 00:00      
         separate search            01/01/70 00:00      
   Companies ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Topic Forums vs Company Forums            01/01/70 00:00      
      Please no            01/01/70 00:00      
         Forum Topics at SiLabs            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nice idea, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Pros and Cons            01/01/70 00:00      
   Follow-up            01/01/70 00:00      
      I like the idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Doesn't matter to me            01/01/70 00:00      
            Would it concentrate the "brains" or ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Valid points            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it seems to be concentrated in a few places            01/01/70 00:00      
                  that may be, but ....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Truth and 8052.com            01/01/70 00:00      
                  effort            01/01/70 00:00      
                  As soon as marketing becomes involved ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Fewer accounts :)            01/01/70 00:00      
   A good way to survive            01/01/70 00:00      
      naah            01/01/70 00:00      
      Welcome to the 21st Century!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Of course            01/01/70 00:00      
            Is there a "free" ide ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               "Free" as in beer - but not choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                  True enough ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Solutions            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC IDE            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Active            01/01/70 00:00      
                            tried that one ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I think...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Pinnacle            01/01/70 00:00      
                        a decent IDE...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not always            01/01/70 00:00      
                              it's kind of there            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    well, you have to start somewhere            01/01/70 00:00      
                              coming soon...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sounds like a job for...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Eclipse? No, please!...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Lock-in            01/01/70 00:00      
            Is the PIC really so much simpler??            01/01/70 00:00      
               PIC makes the 805x look "conventional"            01/01/70 00:00      
               an 8051-user is automatically disqualified...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Too much bagage in the PIC            01/01/70 00:00      

Back to Subject List