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03/06/08 21:20
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 		 #151969 - a decent IDE...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... is more than just an another editor plus a simulator plus a downloader plus an emulator-interface (plus some esoteric C-centric "manager"), all this in modern windowey-clickey form (even with customisable "faces").

The last useful IDE I have seen was TurboPascal 5's. Guess why do I think so - and the answer also tells why are decent IDEs very rare.

JW

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(answer: beyond the no-frills and simply working user interface, it's mainly because of the well-integrated help, which basically taught everything needed. Both require thinking and a lot, lot, lot, lot of work.)

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Opinion: 8052.com hosting other company forums?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Suck it and see?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Appearance of Propriety            01/01/70 00:00      
         separate search            01/01/70 00:00      
   Companies ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Topic Forums vs Company Forums            01/01/70 00:00      
      Please no            01/01/70 00:00      
         Forum Topics at SiLabs            01/01/70 00:00      
      Nice idea, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Pros and Cons            01/01/70 00:00      
   Follow-up            01/01/70 00:00      
      I like the idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Doesn't matter to me            01/01/70 00:00      
            Would it concentrate the "brains" or ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Valid points            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it seems to be concentrated in a few places            01/01/70 00:00      
                  that may be, but ....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Truth and 8052.com            01/01/70 00:00      
                  effort            01/01/70 00:00      
                  As soon as marketing becomes involved ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Fewer accounts :)            01/01/70 00:00      
   A good way to survive            01/01/70 00:00      
      naah            01/01/70 00:00      
      Welcome to the 21st Century!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Of course            01/01/70 00:00      
            Is there a "free" ide ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               "Free" as in beer - but not choice            01/01/70 00:00      
                  True enough ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Solutions            01/01/70 00:00      
                        SDCC IDE            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Active            01/01/70 00:00      
                            tried that one ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I think...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Pinnacle            01/01/70 00:00      
                        a decent IDE...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not always            01/01/70 00:00      
                              it's kind of there            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    well, you have to start somewhere            01/01/70 00:00      
                              coming soon...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sounds like a job for...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Eclipse? No, please!...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Lock-in            01/01/70 00:00      
            Is the PIC really so much simpler??            01/01/70 00:00      
               PIC makes the 805x look "conventional"            01/01/70 00:00      
               an 8051-user is automatically disqualified...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Too much bagage in the PIC            01/01/70 00:00      

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