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12/18/04 08:53
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#83395 - Chip manufacturer changed?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Jan Waclawek said:

Once we decided to remake the board for SMD. My younger colleague replaced the 74LS parts with more modern, faster, better 74HC part... And sure it stopped working.

well you changed the family and it stopped working. I have the experience of changing the chip manufacturer (for an HC chip, I don't remember the part number exactly) from TI to Motorola and the same board stopped working. The chip was on socket (same board for both chips) and rest of parts were also same. Both chips were fine when tested standalone.

Anyway very interesting thread, Joseph.

List of 59 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Weekend On-Topic (WOnT)            01/01/70 00:00      
   microsoft ??            01/01/70 00:00      
      Cute ;)            01/01/70 00:00      
   Weekend on Topic            01/01/70 00:00      
      A very reasonable hypothesis            01/01/70 00:00      
   happened here            01/01/70 00:00      
      The chip changed            01/01/70 00:00      
         What happened?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Also an excellent hypothesis            01/01/70 00:00      
         too much            01/01/70 00:00      
            Nah.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Me too, But            01/01/70 00:00      
   systematic debugging            01/01/70 00:00      
   Pb-free?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Did the temp characteristics change?            01/01/70 00:00      
   another one from memory            01/01/70 00:00      
   What it's not.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Solution            01/01/70 00:00      
         Speed!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Speed            01/01/70 00:00      
      Would get the oscope, first            01/01/70 00:00      
      Try this            01/01/70 00:00      
      What it is?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Think volume            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not a puzzle!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Apologies            01/01/70 00:00      
   Re:            01/01/70 00:00      
      Y2K-and-something            01/01/70 00:00      
         Y2K + something            01/01/70 00:00      
            Y2k05            01/01/70 00:00      
               The Unix Epoch and the Year 2038            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yet another true story...            01/01/70 00:00      
      A perfect example            01/01/70 00:00      
         Newer IC            01/01/70 00:00      
      Answer time...?            01/01/70 00:00      
         another guess            01/01/70 00:00      
      language            01/01/70 00:00      
         Faster does not mean better!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Ok            01/01/70 00:00      
               Gladly            01/01/70 00:00      
         To tell the whole truth...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Hidden parameters            01/01/70 00:00      
      Parasitic parameters            01/01/70 00:00      
         Chip manufacturer changed?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Faster/slower or "controlled" rise time            01/01/70 00:00      
   Answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      Amazing....            01/01/70 00:00      
         Amazed            01/01/70 00:00      
            Split Planes            01/01/70 00:00      
      A bit disappointed...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Series resistors and line matching            01/01/70 00:00      
            Series termination resistors            01/01/70 00:00      
            Series termination            01/01/70 00:00      
               SWR            01/01/70 00:00      
               simulation to the rescue            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
      The same moment?            01/01/70 00:00      
         The same moment!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm Back.            01/01/70 00:00      

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