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05/23/06 16:46
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#116948 - a couple of points
Responding to: ???'s previous message
1) for many tools the purchase price is the least significant issue, the "annual maintenance fee" will often be more when added up for the life of the tool.

2) eval/demo versions are worthless, if a vendor will not "loan" you a full tool, you can not evaluate and will need to decide on experience of others..

3) since you are the summer intern and will not be the permanent user, you need to ask around about things like "how important is the IDE" "if you insist on an IDE, are there any editor functions you can not live without" "if you insist on an IDE, will you accept an ICE that is not integrated with the IDE" "if you otherwise get the IDE you want, will you accept going outside the IDE for some of the features you want".
This is leading towards the fact that any IDE I know has a miserable editor and most ICEs can not be integrated. Basically you have 2 choices a) everything integrated with one component excellent or b) everything excellent and nothing integrated.

Erik

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         I always think            01/01/70 00:00      
            I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
         Support and Longevity            01/01/70 00:00      
            useful, maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
               Useful            01/01/70 00:00      
                  misunderstanding            01/01/70 00:00      
               Software licences            01/01/70 00:00      
                  this trade union does not permit that            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Software houses should offer refunds            01/01/70 00:00      
                        it works both ways            01/01/70 00:00      
                           you worry too much about piracy            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I do not worry at all            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 no it's not ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    by best estimate            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       That's why there are spec's            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I think you agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not quite            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                is what you list not "design"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   No, but it must precede each design.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           you worry too much about piracy            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Predictable            01/01/70 00:00      
            Commercial licences and longevity            01/01/70 00:00      
               have not seen that one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  open source            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I know the people "behind" my tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                        free as in freedom            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Lucky you            01/01/70 00:00      
   a few questions            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sorry If I am not clear            01/01/70 00:00      
         an overview            01/01/70 00:00      
         find out and come back to this thread            01/01/70 00:00      
         Emulator for.....            01/01/70 00:00      
            the only one where that can be said            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes i found that out            01/01/70 00:00      
               learning to swim            01/01/70 00:00      
               if it is            01/01/70 00:00      
                  but we're not using XA            01/01/70 00:00      
   a couple of points            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes well...            01/01/70 00:00      
         what DOS based tools?            01/01/70 00:00      
            a really old keil program i think            01/01/70 00:00      
               I do not know, but ask in the Keil forum            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
   summary            01/01/70 00:00      
   Keil and IAR            01/01/70 00:00      
      Support Forum            01/01/70 00:00      
         Nobody got sacked for buying IBM etc...            01/01/70 00:00      
            it will be flawed            01/01/70 00:00      
               one man's "creature" ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Known or unknown            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The only one with "real" bug reports            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                        VERY true!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Keil            01/01/70 00:00      
   what I do            01/01/70 00:00      

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