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05/31/06 12:22
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#117353 - have not seen that one
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I've seen a drift in commercial software towards annual licence renewals. If you don't pay the renewal, the software stops working!
What I am generally exposed to is "no license, no support".

I have not seen the above (no license, no working) except from a screwy little local software house that called and claimed we used their "mandatory" screwy 'make' software illegally to maintain something they did for this company ages ago. I gladly informed them that their screwy 'make' had not been used for 5+ years because the first thing I did was to discard it and replace it with simple .bat files.

Yes, there are such idiots out there; however what I am generally exposed to is "no license, no support". With that I do not see a problem, if you dig up something ancient and want to maintain it with ancient tools, I consider it perfectly OK that if the "maintenance" is "major" you use the new tools with whatever "conversion hardships" that may encur. My experience is that if something can not handle a recompile with the new tools it was defective in the first place. Part of my testing is a compile with 2 very different versions.

I see again and again the argument for open source "if it fails you can fix it". How many commercial operations can afford to have an employee that is fully versed in the inner workings of SDCC?

Erik

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8051 developer tool reputations            01/01/70 00:00      
   Dont forget            01/01/70 00:00      
      re:don't forget            01/01/70 00:00      
         I always think            01/01/70 00:00      
            I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
         Support and Longevity            01/01/70 00:00      
            useful, maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
               Useful            01/01/70 00:00      
                  misunderstanding            01/01/70 00:00      
               Software licences            01/01/70 00:00      
                  this trade union does not permit that            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Software houses should offer refunds            01/01/70 00:00      
                        it works both ways            01/01/70 00:00      
                           you worry too much about piracy            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I do not worry at all            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 no it's not ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    by best estimate            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       That's why there are spec's            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I think you agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not quite            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                is what you list not "design"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   No, but it must precede each design.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           you worry too much about piracy            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Predictable            01/01/70 00:00      
            Commercial licences and longevity            01/01/70 00:00      
               have not seen that one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  open source            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I know the people "behind" my tools            01/01/70 00:00      
                        free as in freedom            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Lucky you            01/01/70 00:00      
   a few questions            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sorry If I am not clear            01/01/70 00:00      
         an overview            01/01/70 00:00      
         find out and come back to this thread            01/01/70 00:00      
         Emulator for.....            01/01/70 00:00      
            the only one where that can be said            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes i found that out            01/01/70 00:00      
               learning to swim            01/01/70 00:00      
               if it is            01/01/70 00:00      
                  but we're not using XA            01/01/70 00:00      
   a couple of points            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes well...            01/01/70 00:00      
         what DOS based tools?            01/01/70 00:00      
            a really old keil program i think            01/01/70 00:00      
               I do not know, but ask in the Keil forum            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
   summary            01/01/70 00:00      
   Keil and IAR            01/01/70 00:00      
      Support Forum            01/01/70 00:00      
         Nobody got sacked for buying IBM etc...            01/01/70 00:00      
            it will be flawed            01/01/70 00:00      
               one man's "creature" ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Known or unknown            01/01/70 00:00      
                  The only one with "real" bug reports            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SDCC            01/01/70 00:00      
                        VERY true!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Keil            01/01/70 00:00      
   what I do            01/01/70 00:00      

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