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02/05/07 20:55
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 		 #132090 - Why?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
What I am ultimately achieving out of this is a simple 8052 processor unit with a built-in programmer.



Mike,


Why not just add a IAP header to your projects and switch to a modern serial programmable chip? This seems like a lot of trouble for a dubious outcome. The problem has been solved by in-application-programming methods.


Take a look at the AT89C51ED2. It has a built in ROM bootloader. You simply program it via the serial port. The "programmer" is an extra pushbutton to activate the bootloader. As a bonus, you get some XRAM and EEPROM to play with.


Rob



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An 8051 on a DS board            01/01/70 00:00      
   down memory lane            01/01/70 00:00      
      thanks.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Etchant undercutting            01/01/70 00:00      
            photoresist?            01/01/70 00:00      
   I would let them fabricate...            01/01/70 00:00      
      3 or 4 revisions later...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Coming down to earth with a bang...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not a valid question            01/01/70 00:00      
               My intention is not what you think...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SS I think is better            01/01/70 00:00      
                     In your case, wire-wrap would be better yet.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           one thing at a time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes I have            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    even bettwr            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Oh, please, please, please ... not ATMEL!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Just curious, why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Richard has his reasons, here is mine            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Come on, are we snivellers or professionals??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                no 'advice' in my post            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Semantic quibblings...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Forewarned is forearmed ... once bitten, twice shy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Waitaminute ... those others didn\'t do that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   attitude - arrogance we agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Our FAE didn't protect us ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again a single event...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      No, Kai, it's a year-long string of events            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Then stay away from Atmel's products...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Yes, that seems to work satisfactorily            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Well, that's a reason.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                OT - Fortran compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Atmel works for me            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Of course it does            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Off topic, but - Fortan compiler?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Fortran            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Sad but true...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Rob, Caslav Why put that in this thread?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Agreed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         A new thread\'s warranted            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Anything else?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Yes...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SS is easier            01/01/70 00:00      
            It doesn't take long to wire-wrap ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Two sided board alignment            01/01/70 00:00      
   Q for Mike            01/01/70 00:00      
      F15T8BL            01/01/70 00:00      
         a guide for double sided pcb fab            01/01/70 00:00      
      OSRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
      back in the \"old days\"            01/01/70 00:00      
   a footnote            01/01/70 00:00      
      if you have a ground plane ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, it's the made-in-the-kitchen ones ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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