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02/06/07 14:14
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 		 #132128 - no 'advice' in my post
Responding to: ???'s previous message
just a fact.

I am not 'advicing' anyone to stay away from Atmel, just staing that I do.

Now I could add some similar stories I had with Philips, Analog devices and Texas Instruments and then we can break into a passion of tears...

I have had contacts with Atmel since then ('inherited' products) and found the attitude the same or worse.

Has my 'relationship' with e.g. Philips been idyllic harmony? of course not, but the attitude has been "we will help you".
None but Atmel have refused anything from me without, at least, verifying (or finding wrong) my information.
Another example every 'complaint' I have had re the SILabs debugger have been responded to with either "we have reproduced" or "can you help us reproduce". Most of those issues have not been resolved, but, at least, they have been acknowledged, again the attitude at SILabs is totally different.

Thus my problem with Atmel is not just what they did, but the general corporate attitude that permeates that company.

Erik

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      thanks.            01/01/70 00:00      
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            photoresist?            01/01/70 00:00      
   I would let them fabricate...            01/01/70 00:00      
      3 or 4 revisions later...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Coming down to earth with a bang...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not a valid question            01/01/70 00:00      
               My intention is not what you think...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SS I think is better            01/01/70 00:00      
                     In your case, wire-wrap would be better yet.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           one thing at a time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes I have            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    even bettwr            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Oh, please, please, please ... not ATMEL!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Just curious, why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Richard has his reasons, here is mine            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Come on, are we snivellers or professionals??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                no 'advice' in my post            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Semantic quibblings...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Forewarned is forearmed ... once bitten, twice shy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Waitaminute ... those others didn\'t do that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   attitude - arrogance we agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Our FAE didn't protect us ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again a single event...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      No, Kai, it's a year-long string of events            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Then stay away from Atmel's products...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Yes, that seems to work satisfactorily            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Well, that's a reason.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                OT - Fortran compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Atmel works for me            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Of course it does            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Off topic, but - Fortan compiler?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Fortran            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Sad but true...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Rob, Caslav Why put that in this thread?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Agreed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         A new thread\'s warranted            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Anything else?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Yes...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SS is easier            01/01/70 00:00      
            It doesn't take long to wire-wrap ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Two sided board alignment            01/01/70 00:00      
   Q for Mike            01/01/70 00:00      
      F15T8BL            01/01/70 00:00      
         a guide for double sided pcb fab            01/01/70 00:00      
      OSRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
      back in the \"old days\"            01/01/70 00:00      
   a footnote            01/01/70 00:00      
      if you have a ground plane ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, it's the made-in-the-kitchen ones ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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