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02/06/07 13:46
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 		 #132127 - Come on, are we snivellers or professionals??
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik said:
I reported a problem with the first Atmel '51 at revision something like 'g'. (this was the pre e-mail days) Atmel replied by letter to the company (i.e. my boss got it) "whoever reported this is an idiot" (not in those words). This eventually led to me losing my job (they believed "the big company" over me). Lo and behold, in the errata for revision something like 's' the very same problem was included.

NEVER an Atmel in ANY of my designs again.

Now I could add some similar stories I had with Philips, Analog devices and Texas Instruments and then we can break into a passion of tears...

This is only a single event you had with a single person from Atmel, and it's entirely unprofessional to wail over it in an open and worldwide forum. Shall I and all members here keep my hands off Atmel's micros from now on, only because you didn't hit the right note on the phone long time ago, or whatsoever happened??

Kai

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An 8051 on a DS board            01/01/70 00:00      
   down memory lane            01/01/70 00:00      
      thanks.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Etchant undercutting            01/01/70 00:00      
            photoresist?            01/01/70 00:00      
   I would let them fabricate...            01/01/70 00:00      
      3 or 4 revisions later...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Coming down to earth with a bang...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not a valid question            01/01/70 00:00      
               My intention is not what you think...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  SS I think is better            01/01/70 00:00      
                     In your case, wire-wrap would be better yet.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                           one thing at a time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes I have            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    even bettwr            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Oh, please, please, please ... not ATMEL!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Just curious, why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Richard has his reasons, here is mine            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Come on, are we snivellers or professionals??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                no 'advice' in my post            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Semantic quibblings...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Forewarned is forearmed ... once bitten, twice shy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Waitaminute ... those others didn\'t do that            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   attitude - arrogance we agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Our FAE didn't protect us ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again a single event...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      No, Kai, it's a year-long string of events            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Then stay away from Atmel's products...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Yes, that seems to work satisfactorily            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Well, that's a reason.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                OT - Fortran compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Atmel works for me            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Of course it does            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Off topic, but - Fortan compiler?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Fortran            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Sad but true...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Rob, Caslav Why put that in this thread?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Agreed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         A new thread\'s warranted            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Anything else?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               Yes...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SS is easier            01/01/70 00:00      
            It doesn't take long to wire-wrap ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Two sided board alignment            01/01/70 00:00      
   Q for Mike            01/01/70 00:00      
      F15T8BL            01/01/70 00:00      
         a guide for double sided pcb fab            01/01/70 00:00      
      OSRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
      back in the \"old days\"            01/01/70 00:00      
   a footnote            01/01/70 00:00      
      if you have a ground plane ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, it's the made-in-the-kitchen ones ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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