| Reset Accuracy | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Read This | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| throw it away! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That is the nature of RC resets! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Inhereted design | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 1st Lesson | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| P.S. Welcome | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| is IS an iteresting question, isn't it? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| more on supervisor | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| same thing | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Extendec ASCII Characters | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That's cool Joe | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Not ASCII | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Beware - Your results may vary | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Thoughts on RC Resets | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Schmitt leaves problems? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| even at startup you can get into trouble | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the decline and f.. naah rise of the \'51 | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the lpc9xx is the glaring BAD example... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it's not about NXP, though I woldn't forgive them | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it's far past that time... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| only partially so | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| not quite | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Lynn ... can you see anything wrong with ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| how about shooting a sparrow with a RPG? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You've got to ask yourself ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Which manufacturers? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| everybody is | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| errare humanum est... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It's up to us to see that they fix it! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What's the point? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I do noy 'believe' I KNOW. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You can't prove a negative ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| when it's been gone for 100,000 "unit hours" | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| correction | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| How do you monitor this? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| how stupid can you be | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| so YOU really haven't ever looked at any of them? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| sure I did | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it's just as I said ... YOU guess and ship ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Same question | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You force them in your test fixture | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| that I do not want to do my job is an insult | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It's always about your ego, isn't it, Erik? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| adding insult to injury | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| make it opposite | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Answer is wrong | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| No, is not! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: No, is not! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Oops. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the "small embedded printf"... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| LED blinking | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| LCD init delay | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| possibly (most likely) incorrect post | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| supervisor IC | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Check reset Schematic and capacitor . | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| not necessarily | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RC time | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| crystal frequency is a negligible problem | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| who cares | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Not so fast, there, Pilgrim ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| reset toujours | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| correction | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I didn\'t know this is the price of a bit... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the origin of the \'bit\' | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Almost but not quite ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| wasn't that a gold coin? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| So you assert that that's the one that works? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What is this "reset problem" solved by supervisor | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the final effect is on peripherals not the micro | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| not, "this" but all | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What did you mean to say, Erik? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| proof? many ways, here is an example | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I don't doubt any of that, but ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the skinny | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| just another reset-related story | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| true reset-related stories | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Relevance? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| yes, relevance. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the second example ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I gave you two SOLID examples | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I agree with Erik and Jan | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Start at the end ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I just think you're all fooling yourselves ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Vexing, perhaps. Solid? Not in the least! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What\'s so \"solid\" about an anecdote? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Who gives a hoot | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| let\'s put it in another way | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Here\'s what I want from you ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| A particular experience | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Just consider THIS thread ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| well, what about this | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| there's a difference between a fake and a fix | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I believe you are the only one with that opinion | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| So, who has actually tested their product? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| incoirrecrt | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| my experience with RC reset | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Invalid conclusion | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| here is YOUR misconception | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You\'ve got it wrong ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I can recreate this | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| maybe you can ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| IN1232N | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| something is wrong | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| MAX1232 is better! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What do you mean by "erratic and random"? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: something is wrong | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Would you be please so kind... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| RE: Would you be please so kind... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Hhm,... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What\'s the power supply doing at power-on? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| 8051 Family Reset Function | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Power ON reset | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| defined power on | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| inadequate power supply | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| what does that have to do with | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it has everything to do with it. | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Reset | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| ... and what does it do as Vcc decays? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Defence | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You needn't defend the party line ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| correct if you are NOT using a supervisor | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| bidir reset, if there is an internal supervisor | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Oh, that's what 'bidirectional' means here | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| how do you call that property? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Maybe that's your RESET problem! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| i do not | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You don't what? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I am sorry, Richard | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You do that often ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| lower | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| IF you're using too weak a PSU | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| another red herring | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Well maybe it's not a red herring after all | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Ricxhard, posted | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| supervisor is irrelevant during Vcc decay | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| BULLSHIT | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I've observed it, while you haven't even looked | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| unpredictible is a strong word | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| just how would YOU predict the behavior, Jan? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| CMOS | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Yes, that's fine ... well, maybe ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| male cow manure | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| and what's the value of the internal pulldown? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| ... and who\\\'ll pay the bills? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Not only that, but... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It's too costly if it doesn't work | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| get me a muckraker and a pair of boots | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Well, I've observed it, and you haven't even tried | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Flash micros need a different treatment!!! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| to Kai KISS | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Of course, good alternative! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Why do the manufacturers not say that? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| one is one | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| we have answered this many many times before | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| we really don't disagree ... at least on this | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| sure you can | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| The same story again and again and again... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Clearly, we see things differently | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| We aren't so differently... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I have pulled every string I have .... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That would be really awesome!! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| it would be awesome | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| then I'll call the whole thing off | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| No, that's not it | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Would this solve your problem? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| What do you mean? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| more details please | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Maybe this answers some questions | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Blocking the BBRAMs | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Why? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| certainly | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You asked for a methode, and I showed you one | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I agree, what you suggest might work | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| slowpoke | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Because of the enormous currents? | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I considered that ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Of course!! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I've been looking for simple ways | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| more suspition - and more questions | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| It wasn't a thorough test | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| more questions... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| I don't understand the questions ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| the questions are intended... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
there are a number of forces at work here | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| Take care.... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| You pointed that out once before ... | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| We did, of course! | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
| That\'s probably an adequate statistical basis | | 01/01/70 00:00 |
