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11/26/07 13:27
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#147407 - check it
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Majid Dehghani said:

...and I have built many circuits like this and
no problem is occured yet .

Explain what those "many" circuits are, because I don't think
they use the same circuit configuration for the serial port.


But this circuit attackes to PC COM Ports and now I
Have 3 COM Ports damaged ! in two computer .

Now it is time to really check them out.
Get yourself an old file transfer program that works with serial ports, and test each and every single one. If at least one serial port is functional between the computers, then ignore using any other serial port, and test your circuit again.


This circuits most of the times acted correctly but
suddenly damaged PC COM port .

How do you know for sure it damaged it?
You should check Pins 2, 3, and 5 of the port. Pin 5 is ground. Pin 2 or Pin 3 is the transmit pin, and the other pin is the receive pin. All you need to do is connect the receive pin to an LED through a 1K resistor, and connect that to ground. The LED and 1K are connected in series.

in Windows, add a modem in control panel and make it uses the same port. When the LED is hooked up and the modem test begins (you can activate this under Port Diagnostics I think), It will try to commmunicate with the modem. Expect an error message 2 minutes later. During the test, watch the connected LED. If you saw it blinking a number of times, at different speeds, then the port is probably working.

Another thing you could do is a loopback test. Connect the receive pin to the transmit pin through a 1K resistor. I use resistors to prevent massive current.

Now run a terminal program allowing the use of com ports. Recent versions of putty work well for this. When the terminal window opens, type in some random characters. (you won't see a prompt).
Whatever you type in should appear on the screen, even with the echo setting in the terminal software set to off.

So tell me, are your ports REALLY screwed up?




List of 60 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
PC COM Ports Damaging !!!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Earth loops?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why Now and this circuit ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Damage?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I am Sure ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Common mode            01/01/70 00:00      
      You haven't mentioned            01/01/70 00:00      
   do you have the shell of DB9 grounded?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Serial port damage            01/01/70 00:00      
      for serial port damage            01/01/70 00:00      
         No            01/01/70 00:00      
      No, that can't be right!            01/01/70 00:00      
         re:3.3V            01/01/70 00:00      
            are you sure about that, Andy?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Are You SURE?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'm sure Dear ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         not to be argumentative ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   check it            01/01/70 00:00      
      Checks            01/01/70 00:00      
         We haven't seen how the DB-9 is wired            01/01/70 00:00      
            It\'s probably not a DB-9!            01/01/70 00:00      
               sure, but            01/01/70 00:00      
               Sloppy terminology            01/01/70 00:00      
   My Burned out ports            01/01/70 00:00      
      What?            01/01/70 00:00      
         What I mean is            01/01/70 00:00      
   a common misunderstanding is            01/01/70 00:00      
      So problem is in "modern" PCs?!            01/01/70 00:00      
      So problem is in "modern" PCs?!            01/01/70 00:00      
         maybe i'm wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
   try with opto coupler and +9 volt supply            01/01/70 00:00      
      Back when folks cared whether things work ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Assuming He does not have one            01/01/70 00:00      
         There is a way to be sure.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Standard            01/01/70 00:00      
               Power Supply ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Dwhatever9 shell connection to GND...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     about that shell-to-shell connection            01/01/70 00:00      
                        generally...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Truth emerges            01/01/70 00:00      
                     developed?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  that\'s the problem!            01/01/70 00:00      
         HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
      why??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Broken COM port suggestions            01/01/70 00:00      
            he is not wrong - if            01/01/70 00:00      
               ...he is not wrong... only said watch it            01/01/70 00:00      
                  BULL!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Bull?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        yes, genuine male cow manure            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Eric, you are a sad man            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Amateurs and pros            01/01/70 00:00      
                              of course I do            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Well, it has to do...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Kai, I now you know this stuff ... but            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Different CMOS design?            01/01/70 00:00      
   that's right, when you can not argue tha facts ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      My Dear Friends ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         look in the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
            Y E S . . .            01/01/70 00:00      

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