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01/19/07 17:37
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 		 #131120 - yes and I gavce him two
Responding to: ???'s previous message
It's HIS choice ...
yes and I gave him two
http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=131094

I think his objective is to extract some use out of those few left-over parts he's got from some other project. Whether the parts are new or ancient is not the issue for him, he's of a mind to utilize those parts in a particular way, and I think we should encourage him to try it.
Do you have shares of Bayer (the aspirin manufacturer), I see no other reason to 'encourage'?

to use an ISP device and base his EEPROM programmer on that.
I have seen no such suggestion. The suggestions has been "to use an ISP device instead of his EEPROM programmer"

Using a 232 or JTAG (not Atmel 'serial') ISP device will give him something that works "out of the box" AND two ports freed up. Nobody can say for sure that pounding a nail with a shoe will not get it in, but using a hammer is much easier and guaranteed to do it.

Erik


List of 77 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
I need some help with an 8051 design            01/01/70 00:00      
   Have you looked at new parts?            01/01/70 00:00      
      ROM, EPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wheel Re-invention            01/01/70 00:00      
   Perhaps you\'d like to do some essential work first            01/01/70 00:00      
   Stopping XTAL?            01/01/70 00:00      
      If you know what you need ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      from the "outside" point of view...            01/01/70 00:00      
         that won't do it!            01/01/70 00:00      
   to Mike            01/01/70 00:00      
      I know my objective. I need help meeting it.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Anachronism!            01/01/70 00:00      
            not quite so...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Unfortunate            01/01/70 00:00      
               Don't blame poor MS ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  advantages???            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I feel your pain, some of it.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  the blame game            01/01/70 00:00      
            so what?            01/01/70 00:00      
               But you said...            01/01/70 00:00      
               An attitude to learn.....            01/01/70 00:00      
               Before you get all "wrapped around the axle"            01/01/70 00:00      
                  USB as well            01/01/70 00:00      
               if you don't want to be "too" modern...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Since you haven\'t mentioned requirements yet ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Even better            01/01/70 00:00      
               Hold the Reset            01/01/70 00:00      
               Mike I don't understand            01/01/70 00:00      
         you can get better than this...            01/01/70 00:00      
   One crystal            01/01/70 00:00      
      at least some people arre trying to help.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not as simple as you think            01/01/70 00:00      
            ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Not to beat on the data sheet            01/01/70 00:00      
               've got any schematics?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why send NOP?            01/01/70 00:00      
            for programming/program downloading into RAM/EEPRO            01/01/70 00:00      
               ?synconisation            01/01/70 00:00      
               yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  emulate xtal when programming            01/01/70 00:00      
                  no            01/01/70 00:00      
                     This guy has special requirements ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         WHY -WHY - WHY ON EARTH fiddle with            01/01/70 00:00      
   What!! No 8255? :)            01/01/70 00:00      
      No ... the O/P doesn't have his %$#@! together            01/01/70 00:00      
         If it is what he wants            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'm not so sure that will work ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Comments            01/01/70 00:00      
                  He says he has an 80C51BH            01/01/70 00:00      
                     And More            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Wrong goal?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That's true ... but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   let's talk about this schematics            01/01/70 00:00      
      thats it            01/01/70 00:00      
         Less '245s?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Mike, why not make a list ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I don't think this IS critical...            01/01/70 00:00      
               It\'s still not clear what he really requires            01/01/70 00:00      
                  the chips            01/01/70 00:00      
                     you are describing an ISP chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Well, there are ways ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         where does 12V come from?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Illegitimi non carborundum!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Au contraire            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Don't help someone's grandma across the street ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Moving right along!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     waitaminute ... it's an EEPROM ... but he's got it            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I think....            01/01/70 00:00      
                           the best laid plans of mice and men            01/01/70 00:00      
                              for a professional, EVERYTHING is an option            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's HIS choice ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 yes and I gavce him two            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Yes, I agree, one of the choices is a struggle            01/01/70 00:00      
                           thanks for your help guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I don't know if this            01/01/70 00:00      
                              be carefull , Mike            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 software is not good            01/01/70 00:00      

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